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[AL2O3]

Hello, I would like to share with you how I have prepared RYE seed for many years and it works for me.

It is a SOAK and SIMMER tek. but I feel it takes no more time then the No soak no simmer tek and with rye IMO NSNS is a very bad idea... to get the right moisture content you must hydrate rye before you load in jars and PC.

Rye is not cheap, I get mine for $1.70 a LB. or $45 for 50 lb. but it has its benefits over other grains.

The reason I like rye as a sub:

you can just pour the 100% colonized rye in a pan( with no other sub) let grow a few days, then case it and let it run the casing and then fruit, it think this makes it simple, and you can also use it as a spawn in bulk.

Rye seems to easily let large varieties of molds and fungi grow on it, better then other grains.(it is packed with nutrition)


Things you will need

Large pot

Rye seed (I use 3 lb. at a time, it fills 7 Qt jars.)

Cooking spoon

Colander


Lets go.
Rinse rye to get out some of the twigs and dust. Fill it will water to cover the rye by a couple of inches and sit on stove and SOAK for 12-24 hours.

Next day you put stove on High and bring to a boil, once boiling reduce to a simmer


Depending on how much rye you have you will simmer for 20 to 30 min, stirring every couple of minutes til the first rye seed burst. I believe the seed burst is a indicator of Full saturation of the Rye seed.(only a few seeds should burst , but you just saw the first). I also eat the seed as it cooks, I can tell the point at which it is full saturation. Hard to explain the texture... till you try it this way and taste as you go to get a feel, its hard to describe.

Burst seed


From Left to right
DRY RYE, 12-24 soak, half way thru simmer, Rye seed Burst


Once Simmered, pour in colander Rinse off with cold water to stop cooking.. let the rye sit and drain for a 1 1/2 hours I mix it up every 30 min to move trapped water to the outside to drain. when you touch the rye seed, it should not leave water on your hand.


Load the rye into your Jars and PC for 90 min at 15 PSI
Shake the Jars after you take them out of the PC, This will mix the rye that is dryer on top and wetter on rye bottom to even out moisture content (only have to shake once after PC).

Inoculate with you favorite Specimen.

[Dozzer]

Man, Thanx for sharing...this is greatly apreciated...now I got to get some RYE

Peace From The East
**D**

[BEYOND2]

good job thanks for sharing

[Str0be]

Great Tek dude. Now that I see the pics. Will try this out when I have the time.

[Fast]

I have always perferred rye above anything else I have used, nice tek.

[Flawedprophecy]

Nice write up man.

[Mush Zombie]

This is very excellent. The same way I do mine, but I dont do the simmer thing.

NSNS is a terrible idea for any grain spawn imo

[Newest Shroomer]

Nice tek write up Bro ! I have access to a bulk grain place just 7 miles from my house! I may give rye a try! I have used wheat berries before, but I mainly stick with milo and millet...maybe I'll use rye in a tub grow this season!
Peace.
NS

[Mush Zombie]

Newest Shroomer, on 22 February 2012 - 04:43 PM, said:

Nice tek write up Bro ! I have access to a bulk grain place just 7 miles from my house! I may give rye a try! I have used wheat berries before, but I mainly stick with milo and millet...maybe I'll use rye in a tub grow this season!
Peace.
NS

I have personally found RGS to be inferior to WBS, and of course rye grain, or wheat berries for Cubensis. It will still work, but there is just not much substance for the robust mycelium of cubes to infest... As a result, when you spawn to bulk sub, it will require more time (if it even happens) for the desired result of a healthy, fluffy, solid white substrate for beast mode fruiting.

[BEYOND2]

so RGS is better to use for cubensis?

[Mush Zombie]

BEYOND2, on 22 February 2012 - 07:14 PM, said:

so RGS is better to use for cubensis?

no the opposite, IME.

Mexicana will do the same on RGS or WBS, but it will out perform both on Rye Grain, or Wheat berries (for sclerotia production if thats what one is into).

ATL7 just doesnt care it will colonize a brick if theres some holes in it probably.

[AL2O3]

Maybe, The title of the tek and Becasue I called the Large Rye Berry seed ( RYE seed) suggesting that I use seed form a Garden store Intended for lawns.
I get my seed/berry for a health food store intended for human consumption. When I looked up "Rye berry" and Rye Seed" I got the same information on both, suggesting that there is not much difference other then size of seed in strain.

I agree with MZ that WBS is better to spawn with(I notice this too) because of the amount of seeds that are in a jar with WBS as compared to a rye jar with less seed. WBS will give you a good myc run in the sub for that reason.

As far as just casing the grain, I have done both WBS and RYE in sid by side, The RGS out preforms the WBS in this aspect,(the cubes in my sig are just rye cased) It seems that WBS lacks the punch in nutrition to fruit well when just cased.

Should I call the tek to RYE berries to clear up confusion?

[Mush Zombie]

Rye grain, is things like winter wheat, and are berries. What you have looks like the lawn seed for annual or perrenial rye grass. Is that what it is? or is it red wheat, winter wheat, or anything like that?